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catherine bigelow makes a hero of another woman, a real-life cia agent. in a life, the "washington post" reports in mavericks got passed over for the promotion after that mission was successful. the key question is is this agent really out of line or was her behavior described entirely differently if she were a man? cheryl: they're cutting the fat from our military, literally. under intense pressure to trim the budget, the army is dismissing a rising number of soldiers who do not need fitness standards drawing from a growing number of troops grappling with obesity. the number of active-duty military personnel deemed obese actually more than tripled. obesity is now the leading cause of ineligibility for people who want to join the army. really fascinating statistics out of the army. using they're very fit, but they have a major issue. dennis: and delta reaching across the pond striking to sta deal for 49% stake in virgin atlantic airways. cheryl: present atlantic ceo will be joining melissa francis and lori rothman as "markets now" continues. dennis: it is
catherine bigelow makes a hero of another woman, a real-life cia agent. in a life, the "washington post" reports in mavericks got passed over for the promotion after that mission was successful. the key question is is this agent really out of line or was her behavior described entirely differently if she were a man? cheryl: they're cutting the fat from our military, literally. under intense pressure to trim the budget, the army is dismissing a rising number of soldiers who do not need...
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and i know every expert i've talked to in the fbi, and in the cia, glenn carl for example told me none of this torture worked. none of this enhanced interrogation worked. it did not, as cheney has alleged, lead to the killing of bin laden. it was counterproductive. it was damaging to our reputation and he's still lying about it. >> we haven't heard the last of that, have we? >> no, we haven't. >> how aggressive do you think lawmakers ought to be with that report? >> i think it ought to be at least portions of it, just like i thought the 9/11 commission portions of it should be made public. if we're not going to hold people accountable, we should at least let the american people know what was done in their name that basically constituted war crimes. >> getting back to cheney for a moment, his vision of international intervention, do you think that that really illustrates where the republican party is? >> i think the republican party is lost right now. wandsering in the desert, as it were. i don't think they can figure out -- i was on t
and i know every expert i've talked to in the fbi, and in the cia, glenn carl for example told me none of this torture worked. none of this enhanced interrogation worked. it did not, as cheney has alleged, lead to the killing of bin laden. it was counterproductive. it was damaging to our reputation and he's still lying about it. >> we haven't heard the last of that, have we? >> no, we haven't. >> how aggressive do you think lawmakers ought to be with that report? >> i...
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>> well, the filmmakers got extensive access to the cia for this. after the mission, after the bin laden raid was a success, the agency was inundated with requests and they really put their backing behind this project. and there is internal e-mails that have come out to show how enthusiastic they were in providing access to the filmmakers who got to talk to this maya character, they got to talk to the head of the counterterrorism center, they got to tour facilities at the agency including the vault where they -- where the bin laden raid was planned and even to see the agency's mock-up of the compound in pakistan where bin laden was found. so it was really unprecedented access for hollywood and that's what accounts for the authenticity here. >> "zero dark thirty," military terminology for half past midnight. greg miller from "the washington post," thank you so much. >> thank you. >>> the fear of the fiscal cliff and its effect on real people. >> we're not trying to live off the system. we're trying to survive. it is not a luxury to be on unemployment
>> well, the filmmakers got extensive access to the cia for this. after the mission, after the bin laden raid was a success, the agency was inundated with requests and they really put their backing behind this project. and there is internal e-mails that have come out to show how enthusiastic they were in providing access to the filmmakers who got to talk to this maya character, they got to talk to the head of the counterterrorism center, they got to tour facilities at the agency including...
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that was a decision made by the cia, the managers of the cia. i mean, certainly any agency of the u.s. government which has a big success would probably want an accurate portrayal of that success. i think that was why the filmmakers met with this particular woman. as fran points out, there is actually -- there were men involved in this. it isn't just a female agent that did everything. the film suggests that a female agent played an essential role. there's another person that goes by the name of john who has some press attention in the past who was equally important so let's be accurate about this. >> fran, i want to ask you, i want to read a quote to you that was in this "the washington post" piece from a former cia official describing the environment at the agency. this is what the quote says. "the agency is a funny place. very insular. it's like middle schoolers with clearances." i want to get your take on that how does the cia culture play into this controversy surrounding this woman now? >> no question it's a very insular place by its very
that was a decision made by the cia, the managers of the cia. i mean, certainly any agency of the u.s. government which has a big success would probably want an accurate portrayal of that success. i think that was why the filmmakers met with this particular woman. as fran points out, there is actually -- there were men involved in this. it isn't just a female agent that did everything. the film suggests that a female agent played an essential role. there's another person that goes by the name...
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how would you approach, drawing upon your experience in the cia, how would you approach even solving this mystery in front of us right now? >> i mean, it has to come from intelligence. i doubt that the fbi, as good of work as they really do, are going to get the answers they need talking to libyan witnesses. this has to come through clandestine sources, technical means that'll allow us to pinpoint who did this. you're going to be listening to intercepts and things along this line which will allow you to act. i don't want to act against people who are not responsible for this, but i think after three months considering we have the world's best intelligence agencies and investigators, it's troubling to me, i'm disappointed that we haven't been able to bring these people to justice. and like i said, this is sending a terrible signal to folks around the world. and, you know, rick just mentioned mali. that's a place that's becoming an al-qaeda state. jenna: and youty they're -- do you think there's a connection there? why? >> it's a result of what happened in libya, because after the revo
how would you approach, drawing upon your experience in the cia, how would you approach even solving this mystery in front of us right now? >> i mean, it has to come from intelligence. i doubt that the fbi, as good of work as they really do, are going to get the answers they need talking to libyan witnesses. this has to come through clandestine sources, technical means that'll allow us to pinpoint who did this. you're going to be listening to intercepts and things along this line which...